Yes good point, literally putting it out for there for debate -I have my reservations on her theories... To me it doesn't work but i find myself looking around for the 1st time in years at different points of view. Not to adopt new teachings just because 'I can ' now!
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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"
by Thirteenth tribe inhttps://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.
try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .
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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"
by Thirteenth tribe inhttps://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.
try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .
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Probably the love bombing on us ones who have suffered low self esteem or overwhelming feelings of unworthiness.. They play on Gods love for is like its a dam commodity. -
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A Complete lack of Empathy with a huge side order of Foulness !
by Thirteenth tribe inover the last few years i have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from jw's .. i won't lie 2 sisters i knew to be different and quite genuine ... all be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though.
but on the whole most brothers/sisters i've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect.
one sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) i replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because i was in a cult!!
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Over the last few years I have experienced in general a lack of sincerity and empathy from JW's .. I won't lie 2 sisters I knew to be different and quite genuine ... All be it still sipping the 'cool aid' though. But on the whole most brothers/sisters I've met couldn't really care less or just have no idea how to genuinely connect. One sister asked me a year ago how things were with my husband (an un-believer) I replied " a bit strange right now" (in hindsight it was always made worse because I was in a cult!!), before I could expand on that she cut in with "don't worry it's only temporary at least you will get a new husband in the new system"
I could of punched her smug, arrogant, smiling/sneering face! I didn't reply, I absorbed the crap and tried to forgive as it is hammered into us to gloss over our brothers and sisters transgressions! Man, now they gloss over the "transgressions" of hurting children in the worst way possible... I would like to watch a vigilante mob extract justice on these morons and then we can gloss over it!
Anyway rant over, I actually came on to post this very well defined short vid by Berne brown (sociology /psychology schola)r on sympathy and empathy- how one approach is detrimental and the other genuine. This is because most of the Jws I've seen in action have got it so wrong with their self righteous glazed over nonsense and could learn a thing or two from watching this video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1Evwgu369Jw
Peace out.
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Food for thought -"How cults rewrite the brain"
by Thirteenth tribe inhttps://www.ted.com/talks/ex_moonie_diane_benscoter_how_cults_think?utm_source=email&source=email&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=ios-share.
try this link for more of a psychological angle on the jw s .
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Try this link for more of a psychological angle on the JW s
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Looking back,"That was crazy, moment"
by MarkofCane ini got baptized later in life.
i was around 21, i had left and went out into the world should of listen to my gut back then, but instead i disowned myself and came back into the fold.
before i could get baptized, the elder who studied with me said i needed to get rid of everything that was contaminated by this world: music, books & clothing,everything.
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Did anyone ever watch the film "Detroit rock city" with the band kiss ? Remember the scene where the kid hides his kiss records in his mums carpenters record sleeve and she's plays it and hits the roof snapping up the record in anger ! hahaha or when the mums ambush the kiss concert calling them "the Devils music" ! Brilliant , I remember answering the door in a Marilyn Manson t shirt to 2 JW elders from my mums congregation about 16 years ago ... Their faces were hilarious !
I probably won't get back into m.manson just on the grounds that he's a little somber 😉Rock music doesn't have to be depressive or dark man !!
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Looking back,"That was crazy, moment"
by MarkofCane ini got baptized later in life.
i was around 21, i had left and went out into the world should of listen to my gut back then, but instead i disowned myself and came back into the fold.
before i could get baptized, the elder who studied with me said i needed to get rid of everything that was contaminated by this world: music, books & clothing,everything.
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Ha I produced a vast collection of bin liners for the skip containing 100 s of rock/metal CDs , signed collectable albums, t shirts signed at gigs , my scrapbook of gig tickets and signatures from the likes of Alice Cooper to joey Jordanson !
How silly of me, now I have it all on iTunes 😎 And am successfully rebuilding my gig scrapbook ! In the last 2 years I've seen slash, foofighters, pearl jam, bullet for my Valentine , tremonti and awaiting Chris Cornell in April
" Rock on Wayne , party on Garth"
wooooooohhhh yeah ✌🏻
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Just handed in my Disassociation letter
by Thirteenth tribe intonight my dl was posted by hand by my husband (a worldly guy).
i had the luxury of being at work distracted whilst he posted it.
i have been baptised for just over 2 years and studied since 2010. i couldn't take it anymore, not just the zealous dislike/disgust for 'people in the world' (this includes my husband and 99% of my family btw) but the obvious.... the investigations into child sexual abuse.
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Thanks pandorasbox1914. There are a lot of decent people in my ex congregation but unfortunately no, I don't think they will take any real notice of my departure. For some an intervention , a group of psychologist's and they're own family members walking out wouldn't be enough to undue open their eyes. 😪 That has weighed heavy on me for the last 8 months or so but now I guess it's not my problemo! -
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Just handed in my Disassociation letter
by Thirteenth tribe intonight my dl was posted by hand by my husband (a worldly guy).
i had the luxury of being at work distracted whilst he posted it.
i have been baptised for just over 2 years and studied since 2010. i couldn't take it anymore, not just the zealous dislike/disgust for 'people in the world' (this includes my husband and 99% of my family btw) but the obvious.... the investigations into child sexual abuse.
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Thanks everyone , it's great reading your posts. Today I have been on eggshells wondering how my letter had been received and what text X are flying round the congregation about me. I received a text from the sister who studied with me, we were genuine friends but she will probably have to shun me soon.. She told me how much she loves me and always will and that Jehovah has always used imperfect men to carry out his will. This pushed me further away, does this mean anything goes and that she will be tolerant of all these hideous abuse scandals ? That's a giving the organisation a free pass ! Anyway I did not reply, I made it through the day without tears!
Well done introvert2 I'm pleased for you, you sound like a force to be reckoned with😎Also if we did sign contracts it would be signed in our blood haha.
Hi cold steel, my mum was a witness whilst I was young and my sister and I went along with her until our teens when we went our own way. My mum is no longer a JW , she left recently thank goodness and is supporting me through my transition now (We live in different areas of the country ). I began studying back in 2010 shortly after getting married, I felt a little lost and unsure of life.. low and behold 2 witnesses came to my door and by Dec 2013 I was baptised. The last year has been awful, people in my congregation have stepped up the mania, every discussion revolves around ' this system ending' I began lying to people because I was made to feel bad about going away for weekends with my husband and missing a Sunday meeting... It's like everything I did and said was scrutized even my music choices, having a beer , going to the gym etc. Like I said people have become extra crazy and obsessed continually ranting about the last day of this systems... All this combined with the JW TV crap and of course the major issue of the sexual abuse. Also, there's a real lack of love for our neighbours now, they straight out call them enemies ! To say I began to doubt is an understatement I felt I had made a massive mistake 😫
Im on the mend now I guess but I'm truly exhausted, I have never felt so drained ! Thanks guys. Peace out.
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What could the R&F theme tune be?
by pandorasbox1914 ini started this topic "what could the fds theme tune be?
", there has been some great ideas with this so how about one for the r&f in, fading or out.. to get the ball rolling how about these:.
slade, mama weer all crazy now.
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REM It's the End of the World as we know it !
"It's the end of the world as we know it
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What could the FDS theme tune be?
by pandorasbox1914 inwhat do think guy's?for me it would have to be jimi hendrix "all along the watchtower" and when they end their earthly course, led zeppelin's "stairway to heaven"any other good songs?
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Hmm, we really should be grateful, they care a lot !